tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post7132105439109716306..comments2024-03-28T08:37:58.136+01:00Comments on Limited, Inc.: Michael Walzer, moral midgetRoger Gathmannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11257400843748041639noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post-54476497856748485172008-03-17T23:25:00.000+01:002008-03-17T23:25:00.000+01:00North, thanks for digging up the passage that I wa...North, thanks for digging up the passage that I was trying to recall.<BR/><BR/>AmieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post-3404291280801252942008-03-16T06:12:00.000+01:002008-03-16T06:12:00.000+01:00AZ 106 = THE FACES OF THE REPUBLICANS = THE LABYRI...AZ 106 = THE FACES OF THE REPUBLICANS = THE LABYRINTH OF SOLITUDE (<EM>AZ-123 <A HREF="http://books.google.com/books?id=Ei5m7_T2G80C&pg=PA9&vq=%22THE+PACHUCO+AND+OTHER+EXTREMES%22&source=gbs_search_s&cad=5&sig=MUQR085KavrU9lGWbFdd71lvviM" REL="nofollow">THE PACHUCO AND OTHER EXTREMES</A>, p27-28, The Labyrinth of Solitude</EM>)<BR/><BR/><I>I remember that in Spain during the civil war I had a revelation of "the other man" and of another kind of solitude: not closed, not mechanical, but open to the transcendent. No doubt the nearness of death and the brotherhood of men-at-arms, at whatever time and in whatever country, always produce an atmosphere favorable to the extraordinary, to all that rises above the human condition and breaks the circle of solitude that surrounds each one of us. But in those faces—obtuse and obstinate, gross and brutal, like those the great Spanish painters, without the least touch of complacency and with an almost flesh-and-blood realism, have left us—there was something like a desperate hopefulness, something very concrete and at the same time universal. Since then I have never seen the same expression on any face. ¶ My testimony can be dismissed as an illusion, but I consider it futile to attempt any answer to this objection: the evidence is now a part of my being. I believed and still believe that "the other man" dawned in those men. The Spanish dream was broken and defiled later, not because it was Spanish but because it was universal and, at the same time, concrete, an embodied dream with wide, astonished eyes. The faces I saw have become as they were before they were transformed by that elated sureness (of what: of life or of death?); they are the faces of coarse and humble people. But the memory will never leave me. Anyone who has looked Hope in the face will never forget it. He will search for it everywhere he goes, among all lands of men. And he will dream of finding it again someday, somewhere, perhaps among those closest to him. In every man there is the possibility of his being—or, to be more exact, of his becoming once again—another man.</I>northangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02124226438327229521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post-67176534831136258512008-03-14T22:30:00.000+01:002008-03-14T22:30:00.000+01:00North, I have to admit that Pan's Labyrinth isn't ...North, I have to admit that Pan's Labyrinth isn't exactly easy viewing, but if you can take googling The Caudillo in His Labyrinth, maybe you can give the film another chance.<BR/>All this has me recalling another labyrinth - The Labyrinth of Solitude, by O. Paz. He went to Spain during the civil war and writes about it in the book. I don't have it with me, but do remember his writing about the faces of the Republicans, of the desperate hope etched there.<BR/>To quote a line from memory:<BR/><BR/>Whoever has looked Hope in the face never forgets it and everywhere he goes he is forever looking for it.<BR/><BR/>AmieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post-27985861281932631902008-03-14T13:30:00.000+01:002008-03-14T13:30:00.000+01:00thanks Amie. i checked out Pan's Labyrinth when it...thanks Amie. i checked out <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan's_Labyrinth" REL="nofollow">Pan's Labyrinth</A> when it first came out, but it's a bit too strong for me to watch. that brings an <B>interesting</B> layer to the caudillo since i also googled up <A HREF="http://www.reason.com/news/show/122122.html" REL="nofollow">The Caudillo in His Labyrinth</A>—any ideas about that labyrinth? btw, Matthew 12:29 (binding the strongman) & Matthew 18:18 (binding/loosing) were also "caudillo" googled.northangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02124226438327229521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post-81725996936459313142008-03-14T00:50:00.000+01:002008-03-14T00:50:00.000+01:00North, those are quite some quotes! Have you seen ...North, those are quite some quotes! Have you seen the film, Pan's Labyrinth? Well worth seeing - and in relation to the caudillo and the Spanish Civil War. <BR/><BR/>AmieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post-73272342710009744292008-03-13T16:47:00.000+01:002008-03-13T16:47:00.000+01:00recently wondered where the word "strongman" came ...recently wondered where the word "<A HREF="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120510610822923099.html?" REL="nofollow">strongman</A>" came from: <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caudillo" REL="nofollow">caudillo</A>. you & amie probably know more about it, but found some stuff i liked. <I>The left and the right in Latin America each have had, in recent years, their own Latin Lover — the idealized strong man who would hold the nation in his arms and banish disorder. Order — the strongman's promise spread throughout the land. There was no more erotic word in the lexicon of Latin America</I> (<A HREF="http://www.pacificnews.org/jinn/stories/4.22/981026-pinochet.html" REL="nofollow">Romance and Romantics, Revolution and Reality</A>). <B><A HREF="http://books.google.com/books?id=uHLwJhsAezAC" REL="nofollow">this definition</A></B> seems weirdly appropriate: <I>To play the part of the strong man, to be whipped at the cart's tail; i.e. to push the cart and horses too</I>. googled up United States Caudillo, United States Caudillo Action &c, but my favorite's from a <A HREF="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,754198,00.html" REL="nofollow">1934 Time article</A> about an Argentine cattle thief hiding the product until prices go up: "I got the idea from the Yanqui plan organized by the United States Caudillo Francisco Roosevelt. . . . It's a great idea, supply and demand, and it saved us from closing shop. When a man called Francisco Roosevelt can do it, so can a man called Francisco Gomez."<BR/><BR/>i think <A HREF="http://state-of-flux.blogspot.com/2005/06/ten-commandments-for-developing.html" REL="nofollow">The Ten Commandments for Developing Countries</A> should be revised for Developed Countries. revising your formula, <B>monolopy of v. monopoly on</B>: right to bear arms v. american caudillo. right to bear arms is the right to define the <A HREF="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200112/vest" REL="nofollow">battlespace</A>; american caudillo is the red telephone ringing at 3AM answered by the "strongman". "monopoly on" infringes upon the right of the People to defend themselves blah blah yadda yadda.<BR/><BR/>AZ 200 = INTERPRET THE ALLUSIONS TO IT IN THE CORPUS JURIS = REPUBLICAN-DEMOCRATIC-PROGRESSIVE COALITION = WHATEVER YOU BIND ON EARTH WILL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN.<BR/><BR/>AZ 206 = WHATEVER YOU LOOSE ON EARTH WILL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN = MONOPOLY ON THE LEGITIMATE USE OF PHYSICAL FORCE = QUITE OUT OF PROPORTION TO THEIR ORIGINAL = THINGS WHICH HAVE NOT OR HAVE NEVER HAD AN OWNER.northangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02124226438327229521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post-57974882064091345642008-03-10T20:31:00.000+01:002008-03-10T20:31:00.000+01:00Ah, LI, it is good to think of the old milicianas ...Ah, LI, it is good to think of the old milicianas smiling, they did have the most unbelievable smiles when they were young!<BR/>Over in France, the PS and PCF did quite well in the local elections this past weekend. Hope they can carry through in next weekend's second round and really kick Sarko & Co in the nuts.<BR/><BR/>AmieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post-144648401649975092008-03-10T06:37:00.000+01:002008-03-10T06:37:00.000+01:00Amie, wow, the victory in Spain has put some peppe...Amie, wow, the victory in Spain has put some pepper into you! I like the milicianas, some of whom are probably alive today. And definitely smiling.Roger Gathmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11257400843748041639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post-90791012482514425802008-03-10T04:46:00.000+01:002008-03-10T04:46:00.000+01:00Li, fuck Walzer and his ilk. Exactly how long is o...Li, fuck Walzer and his ilk. Exactly how long is one supposed to take such scum for sages?<BR/>And forget<BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa_TY14iBQ0&feature=related<BR/><BR/>AmieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post-7931103718298907142008-03-09T23:04:00.000+01:002008-03-09T23:04:00.000+01:00Amie, I believe there is an essay by Feynman entit...Amie, I believe there is an essay by Feynman entitle how small can we go - or something like that. So maybe I will have to go to the nano dimension to survey Walzer's moral status.<BR/><BR/>CK - <A HREF="http://nastybrutalistandshort.blogspot.com/2008/03/bulletin-of-socialist-lavatory-league.html" REL="nofollow">Owen is starting an anti-Weberian campaign against the privatization of public bathrooms. </A>And now you bring it up. Aux Armes, Citoyens!<BR/><BR/>Or, because I am in a Hole mood this weekend, perhaps I should say that Walzer just wants to be <A HREF="http://youtube.com/watch?v=DKAuMloXHOg" REL="nofollow">the girl with the most cake. </A>Roger Gathmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11257400843748041639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post-45739011172359561922008-03-09T22:00:00.000+01:002008-03-09T22:00:00.000+01:00That Weberian neologism 'Anstaltsbetrieb' suggests...That Weberian neologism 'Anstaltsbetrieb' suggests to me public urinals operated for profit. So the notion would naturally lead Walzer to Blackwater.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3077210.post-50274839077280132132008-03-09T21:46:00.000+01:002008-03-09T21:46:00.000+01:00LI, I would have to respectfully take issue with y...LI, I would have to respectfully take issue with you - calling Mr. Walzer a moral midget is way too flattering, considering the man's talents.<BR/>I have to admit that I don't quite know what to call someone who compares Blackwater with the International Brigades!!!<BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm4XRHtbQEE&feature=related<BR/><BR/>Allez, Zapatero!<BR/><BR/>AmieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com